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The Setting


It is the 21st century. The ozone layer has been depleted; global warming is taking its toll on the earth's surface; thick smog has become a way of life. Crime has skyrocketed, of course, leading to the construction of a tremendous maximum security prison encompassing what was once known as New York City. In Detroit, there is only one protector: RoboCop. His futuristic brand of vigilante destruction is the only thing keeping society together. But is it right?

On the outskirts of the city lie the long since abandoned buildings of the now defunct Office of Scientific Intelligence (tm). In a sub-basement, a cryogenic freezer fails, and Steve Austin is awakened. Using his Bionic Recooperative Powers (tm) and a cup of java, he is quickly back to full strength. He emerges from the frozen tomb that long since dead network executives had banished him to after the negative Neilson ratings of "Bionic Ever After". As he enters the city, he spots RoboCop, shooting up a car full of drug dealers. The car, now out of control, crashes into a crowded restaurant and explodes. RoboCop, unremorseful, continues on patrol. Austin decides that this type of law enforcement has no place in HIS society...

RoboCop, spotting an angry man coming at him at 60+ mph, assumes he is a criminal and attempts to destroy him. Which "do-gooder" is left standing?


The Six Million Dollar Man, Steve Austin RoboCop, Alex Murphy

The Six Million Dollar Man

vs.

RoboCop


The Commentary


STEVE: After careful consideration, the Six Million Dollar Man and the 70's greatness he represents will emerge victorous in this battle. True, there are several major advantages in RoboCop's favor, such as armor plating and weaponry, but if we delve beneath the obvious, it will become clear that six million dollars will buy a lot, even today.

One serious problem RoboCop has is a screwed-up head. Most of the time, he can't think straight, and when he can, he becomes suicidial or remorseful. When his brain isn't working, the IBM-PC in his head controls things, with no chance for creativity which will be necessary to defeat the Bionic Man. Another drawback RoboCop has is his speed. Sure he's tough, but he's also slower than Lirch. Steve Austin will be able to juke left and right, evading any attack RoboCop might muster.

Steve Austin has the best military, commando, and spy training the good 'ol USA can provide. He can do it all, and with a clear head. He can even beat up BigFoot. If you notice, RoboCop only wins against drug dealers and executives, rarely against trained adversaries. He had trouble with ED-209, a lousy second-rate piece of junk. The way I see it, Austin will serpentine up to RoboCop at 60+ MPH, and lay a bionic kick right in Robo's unprotected face, reducing his brain to a pile of useless jelly and microchips. Robo will never know what hit him. Austin in 10 seconds.

BRIAN: You so quicly look past the "obvious" and fail to realize its significance. It sounds like your entire argument is based on RoboCop's minimal amount of exposed skin. I hardly think that that serves as an Achilles' heel in this scenario. Let's look at what both competitors bring to the table. Austin brings speed and stength and a human mind. RoboCop brings armor, tremendous firepower, strength, and computer logic (NOT an IBM, by the way). Where is the deficiency in this match-up? It's in Austin's inability to do ANYTHING to RoboCop. "Lay a bionic kick" in RoboCop's face? Is that the best you can do? Obviously RoboCop can deter such daring assaults with his massive firepower. What else does the Bionic Man have to offer? True, in the later made-for-TV movies, Austin did get improved weaponry, such as a laser. But considering those were created for TV movies, they certainly were too cheap to survive the 50 years of cryofreeze.

The way I see it, the Bionic Man, in his anger, is running straight at RoboCop in the open street. RoboCop QUICKLY raises his guns and lets it fly (true Austin is quicker, but RoboCop is no Lirch). Austin adjusts and jumps for cover, but RoboCop is able to follow him with his 50 rounds per second of fire and blows off Austin's good arm and riddles his circuitry -- he is down. RoboCop, finding a bleeding, moaning Bionic Man, puts him out of his misery with a grenade launcher right in the transistor. This time, they will not rebuild him.

STEVE: First of all, a few corrections for you. It *IS* an IBM-PC. Watch the movie carefully. When they first turn on RoboCop, you can see MS-DOS being loaded up (look for COMMAND.COM). Second, RoboCop cannot do anything quickly. I can't think of one instance in the movie where he moves even as fast as a normal person. He's just one slow and dumb cop.

I glad you brought up weapons. First, Steve Austin has the eye-laser you mentioned. I doubt it could pierce his armor, but it would easily fry RoboCop's vision sensor, rendering him blind as well as dumb and slow. Also, at the same time he got the laser, Rudy Wells also put in a link between his bionic eye and bionic arm. He has the same targeting capability as RoboCop! Steve could pick up an off-the-shelf .44 Magnum (the most powerful handgun in the world) and blow RoboCop's head *clean* off. Bye-Bye, RoboCop!

Finally, I bring up one very important last point. Sound Effects. The Six Million Dollar Man has the coolest bionic sound effect you've ever heard. You know when you hear that bionic noise that Steve Austin is going to kick some ass. What does RoboCop have? Whiney high-pitched servo-motor noises. Pathetic! I daresay RoboCop will flee in terror when he hears the mighty bionics roar!

BRIAN: Steve, I truly believe that you are going insane. No, it *IS NOT* an IBM-PC. IBM no longer exists! It may be a decscendant of the once great IBM corporation, but as we all know, "The Company" owns everything in this future Detroit. Which brings us to the subtle point I was trying to make which you so obviously missed: Things have changed! This "IBM" is a state-of-the-art 21st century computer, far more powerful than the Bionic Man's transistors (miss that one, too, Steve?). How can anyone rationally believe that Austin's pitiful 70's electronics (he's got vacuum tubes in his ass for heaven's sake!) can even begin to compare to, nevermind match up with, RoboCop's super-computer-of-tomorrow (tm)??!!

And then you rant on and on about all these weapons that we all know the Bionic Man WON'T have. Again, how are cheesy made-for-TV-movie special effects going to make it through 50 years of cryofreeze?! Not gonna happen!

And then you point out the Bionic Man's cool sound effects. Yes, they are cool in their own little retro way. But you fail to recognize RoboCop's sound effects: How can anyone hear Austin's "du-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh-nuh" when RoboCop is filling the THX with the music of automatic weapons and grenade explosions? Austin might be the sentimental favorite, but he won't stand a chance. You can't even think of a belivable way (a "bionic kick"???) for Six Million Dollar Man to hurt RoboCop! If Austin gets near him, he bounces right off and BOOM: a six million dollar ash tray.


The Results


RoboCop (328)

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The Six Million Dollar Man (272)

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Voter Comments


BRIAN'S RESPONSE OF THE WEEK (TM)

Steve uses his leaping ability, jumping over Robocop's head and landing just behind him. Robocop turns to face him, but, as usual, he's slower than horse pucky. Steve grabs the back of Robocop's head, his fingers tightening into the metal. The bionic sound fills the air as shocked onlookers see Austin pull off Robo's helmet to see- Dick Clark! Yes, the man who never ages was the true Murphy all these years, hiding ever since the 2000 new years eve party went berserk at seeing his first grey hair. Clark/Robocop screams at horror at his face, now (finally) old and grey being viewed by the mass public. Austin put him out of his misery with a slow motion one-two punch, forever making Ed McMahon do the Publisher's Sweepstakes on his own. Austin, swept up by the post-Robocop era, cleans up the town (since he has no objectives he has to follow), makes it with Robocop's old partner ("He was such a nice guy, but that metal got cold at nights!") and becomes the First Bionic President.

The End.

- Dark Paladin.


STEVE'S RESPONSE OF THE WEEK (TM)

All your points are good and valid, but no-one has mentioned that once the 6 Million Dollar Man (6MDM) gets up to 60 mph, he will start to fly due to the lift generated by his appalling 70's disco polyester lapels. Those things have the same wingspan as the x-planes that Col. Austin tested, and we know how well he can fly those.

The 6MDM will get up to speed, lift off, crash and burn, and Robocop will give him a ticket for littering. "Have a nice day, citizen".

Robo in 34.5 seconds.

-DeVerne



RoboCop's ultimate downfall is due to a combination of crushing government bureaucracy and the fact that Intel is inside.

RoboCop was built by a private contractor for the city of Detroit. The city understands it is receiving "state of the art" technology. This is the crucial point which dooms RoboCop. In reality, RoboCop is built with a circa 1994 Pentium chip which the contractor had mothballed due to once documented but now forgotten problems. This is the perfect opportunity to charge the city of Detroit premium 21st century prices for a twentieth century blunder. They jump on the opportunity.

In true governmental fashion, the bureaucracy has grown to even more unsustainable yet still funded proportions. Technical competence has absolutely nothing to do with procuring a job, hence the city overseers of the RoboCop project are easily duped.

Steve Austin was built by a government agency, but in a completely different era. The US had put men on the moon. They did it on what would be considered today an impossible to work with budget (never mind what 21st century bureaucrats would think). NASA had technicians who could do the job THEMSELVES. There was a CAN DO attitude. This enthusiasm and competence pervaded the secret agency tasked to design the Bionic Man. As a result, Steve's "pitiful" early 1970's circuitry is error free.

We can see where this is leading, hence I briefly outline RoboCop's demise. Both combatants survive the first encounter and Steve realizes hand-to-hand combat won't do. He retreats and during the ensuing midrange firefights, Steve discovers that RoboCop's aim is slightly askew. The error is magnified at large distances. Steve easily stays out of RoboCop's effective range and has the advantage due to his bionic vision. He also has no trouble finding a cornucopia of weaponry in the ultra-violent 21st century. RoboCop can only fire where his calculations determine. Steve zeroes in on his opponent until RoboCop falls in a hail of well-placed explosives.

- Dr. Joe


Steve's hopes of Steve Austin taking out RoboCop with a kick to the head is just a waste. If you remember from RoboCop 2, Robo has his ex-wife touch his face - it's cold to the touch - it's just tissue. It's not like his brain is still in his head. It's down in his chest, under 6 inches of neutronium or something.

Also remember from RoboCop2 that Cain and his gang tore up RoboCop (even with a jackhammer!) and couldn't kill him. (Okay, he went into shock, but the Bionic Man is no jackhammer - one karate chop to Robo's chest armor and SNAP! - every bone or transitor in the hand is chalk!)

So the Bionic Man lunges at Robo, kicks him in the chest, breaks his leg, and bounces off. Robo is knocked over and takes 2 minutes to get back up. But since Col. Austin is recovering from shattering every bone in his leg, he's not doing much.

Robo whips out his .45 machine pistol, and using the same amazing targeting that allowed him to shoot through a women's dress to turn a mugger into a singer for the Vienna Boys Choir, cleanly shoots off both of the Bionic Man's legs, then the arms, and then pops in a fresh clip and splatters Austin's brains all over the street.

It's a good thing Detroit is a toxic wasteland, or the citizens would be distgusted at the sight of the remains of the Bionic man.

Maybe some kid can use Steve's spare parts to keep his Amiga running.

- Taggart


Bionic man, quick and simple. Why, you ask? Simple: motivation.

Robocop has his funky weapons and high-tech computers. (Yes, it is an IBM-clone, Brian. Nothin' else uses command.com, thank God. The 'Company' of Robocop is obviously an offshoot of the all-powerful Microsoft conglomerate.) That, however, is all he has. He can't eat, can't drink, can't smell the flowers, and lacks the necessary, er, organs for more intense physical stimuli. That's right, he's Robo-Eunuch. So, what's the poor bastard got to live for? Shooting people? Good for a while, but eventually adrenaline burnout sets in and then there's no joy in violence anymore. His life becomes a dull, passionless march through time. It's very likely that he's committed suicide long before the 6m man ever wakes up. If he does avoid kervorking himself, he'll lack the motivation to put up any seroius fight.

In contrast, look at the 2/3 dozen million pound man. He's woken up after 50 years of sleep and is lookin' for some lovin'. What's the best way to impress the vixens? "That's right, Baby. I knocked off Robocop. One I-beam dropped from a ten-story building [with that cowelled neck of his, he can't look up] pushed his head below his ankles. Can I buy you another beer?" 700 trillion peso boy has the rage, the drive, and the Eye of the Tiger[TM] all on his side. Robocop will probably be glad to go.

- J. Daggar


Here's how it happens the SMDM charges Robo at a 100 m.p.h. then jumps into the air for an assault. Swiftly but calmly, Robo Cop raises his right arm and extends that nice little device that poses for a middle finger. As gravity pulls the "over-priced man" down to earth, he is impailed through the rectum and out the ribcage, mounted, without honor, so that all could see that Robo Cop is the champion of all bionic mankind. There ain't never not gonna be no sequel to this saga. Robo Cop wins 3.7 seconds.

- buttmunch


Ol' Steve has everything on RoboCop. He's been in stasis for a while, yes, but he was awake, a la Demolition Man. He was driven insane by being unable to move for so long, having no one to talk to but his own slowly eroding mind. His sense of morals have been driven to hell. What's gonna happen is Steve is gonna envelope Robocop in a Six-Million Dollar Biono-Hug , surprising the poor armored bastard. Memories of love and devotion will be re-awakened in Robocop, and he and Steve will become friends. Meanwhile, Steve will haunt Robocop's old family, threatining his ex-wife, making "friends" with his kids (Kids go for the tic-tic-tic-tic-tic sound), all unbeknownst to Robocop, who thinks it's some damn psycho (which it is). Suddenly, Steve will disappear. After about a week, a frantically desperate Robocop will find a note on a lace doily in his house from Steve, telling him to meet him in the abandoned toxic-waste dumpsite at midnight. Robocop will, of course, be there, only to be met with a steel pole to the abdomen! This won't even coem close to finishing Robocop off, though. Robocop will rip the pole out of his chest and chuck it at the direction the attack came from. Steve, the attacker, will have been long gone by the time Robocop finally takes the pole out. Robocop will draw his gun, having only the BIonic Steve sounds to know where to shoot from. Echoes from the large dump site will confuse poor ol' Robocop, until he finally turns the gun to his own head, akin to a scorpion in a fire stinging itself to death. His last sight before he is permanently deactivated will be Steve dipping his family into toxic waste...veeeery sloooowly...

Steve Austin in 2 months.

- WPCr


Problem: whenever Steve Austin does his "da-na-na-na-na-na-na" thing, he moves in slow motion. He is then an easy target for Robocop.

The battle would sound something like this:

Da-na-na-na-na-na-BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM BLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAMBLAM

This would be followed by the Bionic Woman getting her ass kicked by Wonder Woman (*screw* mud wrestling).

- Christopher Bird


This is reminicent of the battle between the Enterprise (old tech) and the Death Star (future tech). The $6 million man (now known as $) lopes down the street (da-na-na-na-na). Robocop says "halt in the name of the law." (whirrrrrr) The preliminaries are now over (it's kinda like singing the national anthem, it's gotta be done). The first move goes to $, and he leaps into a flying kick! Unfortunately, since Robocop can take .50 cal. mg rounds, $ shatters his foot. Now it's over, as $'s only advantage was his speed. Robocop, in a vain attempt to take him alive will attempt to subdue him with his knife thing, slowly but surely disemboweling and maiming his enemy. What a sad fall for one who was so great.

- Lord Axe


I'm thinking if this cryofreezer thing is dethawing people then Jamie Summers and that dog (Max?) can't be far behind. She'll hear that he is in trouble, come running... the mutt will probably end up taking a few but combined Robocop will be overwhelmed.

- thur8332


Apparently, either Steve Austin should thaw out some more or they should have given him a bionic brain to replace that waste of space between his head. He obviously did not think this out too well. After decades in the freezer, he is in a completely new world where the political, economic and technological situations are totally different. So what does he do? With no understanding of the motives or the technology behind his adversary, he performs an inpromptu frontal attack. *Great plan, Hannibal.*

Now if Mr. Austin had done his homework and at least scouted out his opponent's capabilities, he would have understood that RoboCop is not some loser hood that he can knock senseless with his bionics. He needs a plan. He does not have a plan. *Austin (Houston, whatever), we have a problem.*

RoboCop using his sensors and human brain, quickly indentifies the bionics threat and is prepared for the first blow. Though he is knocked down, most of the damage is absorbed by his armor and the driver side door of a 1999 Yankee Pickup. As Mr. Austin goes in for the kill, RoboCop from his prone position identifies the most logical weak spot and locks on with his computer targeting. Ten extremely accurate and extraordinarily painful rounds to the testicles later, the Six-Million Dollar Man is ready for his next TV movie: *Ice Pirates II.* OUCH!

- Paul Golba


Well, although $6Mil Man is a definite retro-chic favorite, and I would love for him to win, it just aint gonna happen. Unfortunately, in the scenario you have set out, Robo has the upper hand. Steve's personal knowledge won't amount to anything, and the element of surprize, which would add to Steve's chances, has been removed.

Even running at 60mph, Austin can not catch Robo off guard. Unlike a cheeta, which has a tail for counterbalance during high speed turns, Steve is just not very mobile. He has to come at you straight on. Even without creativity, Robo's internal computer would be able to track and plot Austin's speed and vector, and pick him off with several well placed rounds.

- Wes Breazeale


I would like to see the more charismatic 6 million dollar man win, but ROBOCOP has no weaknesses except movie plot lines.

- Michael Allen Smith


First off, the Six Million dollar apple pie wouldn't last ten minutes in a bad Detroit neighborhood. He'll come out of his cryo-sleep, pull on one of his all-purpose orange jumpsuits and go out to see the city. Before he even encounters Robocop, he'll have already lost his watch, his wedding ring, and his bionic arm in a street game of three card monte. Eventually, he'll have lost all of his bionic parts, his classic '70's Addidas, and every last dime he has on him.

Distraught, he will hop off into the slums, where he will first encounter Detroit's metal finest. Warning Robocop of the dangers of cybernetics, the inherent evil of machine replacing man, and the riskiness of television; the Six Million Dollar Man will fall to the ground and weep. Robocop, his head cluttered with GIF files of Jenny McCarthy, his gears grinding from a long patrol, will kindly shoot the 70's icon and continue on his way.

When the Bionic Woman wakes up and goes after Robo, that'll be when the real war begins.

- Tengu:<>


There is an important point overlooked in this match. They are both good guys. Steve will 'win' because he will convince Robocop that they should join forces against any and all drug dealing BigFoots. Steve may be forced to adapt his tactics to the 21st centrury moral climate ie. vigilante style technique, but he will still be seen as an all-American good guy based on the lowered moral opionion of the public. Robocop is an emotional wreck. He will realise that Steve is also 'good guy' just before he blows him away (Robocop never kills the main enemy in the first shot - the movie has to build up to a climax). Robocop will suffer an emotional breakdown (he won't know who to protect, suffering a General Protection Fault, which remains consistent with his operating system) and Steve will help him pull his life together. This will also set the stage for more sequels and merchandising spinoffs than just one hero alone, a fact which The Corporation will appreciate.

- Matt Miesnieks


He's got all the cheesy 70's effects anyone could ever want, *and* a red jump suit.

RoboCop will fall on the floor laughing, as his (definitely IBM) DOS system will not see S-M-D Man as a threat. This will leave Steve free to jump up and down on Robo's dangerously exposed face and mangle his motherboard.

(Why did they leave his face exposed? A serious oversight, in my opinion, although having seen Planet Of The Apes, we all know how stupid a masked man speaking looks!)

Six Million Dollar Man in Six Milli-Seconds!

- Flash


Reasons why six million dollar man wins...

1.His stunt career as the Fall Guy. "He can fall from a burning building, he can roll a brand new car, cause he's the unknown stuntman who killed RoboCop." Also, Lee Majors could sing...witness his Fall Guy theme! 2.His sound affects will make RoboCop's sensors go all willy-nilly. 3.Better looking girlfriend. 4.Steve Austin has no suicidal impulse. RoboCop does. 5.Everyone knows Lee Majors was Steve Austin. Who played RoboCop on TV? I dare anyone to answer! 6.Steve Austin slept with Farrah Fawcett (Majors!). Who has Peter Weller slept with? No one knows or cares. 7.Lee Major was a hard ass in Tour of Duty. Peter Weller was a junkie in Naked Lunch. Hard ass vs. junkie who couldn't hit the shot glass off his wife's head? NO CONTEST! 8.Six million dollar man had cooler and bigger toys than RoboCop. WHo can forget looking through the eyes of the Bionic Man doll? They are rare, RoboCop is still clogging up the 8C clearance aisle at Toys R Us.

Six Million Dollar Man wins hands down.

- Marcadv


I voted for Robo because he eats BABY FOOD! HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!!! GERBERS MAKES ME STRONG! STRONG LIKE BULL!!!

I go take cold shower now.

- Michael


I pick Steve Austin for sheer kahones factor involved.

Number one: The accidents that made them the men(?) they will be and were. Robocop was some punk beatcop who wandered into the wrong room and was shot slowly with shotguns for being dumb. Col. Austin was blown up in a jet plane accident type of thing. Very Macho.

Number Two: Sound effects Robocop has only those servo-motors to whine as he trudges along. Steve has bionic running sound effects, bionic car-flipping effects, bi onic looking at stuff effects, etc... Real men know the value in variety.

Number Three: Girls. Robocop doesn't score with the chicks. Period. In fact if one ponders for a moment, He is physically incapable of making it!! Not so with Steve. That stud boy could go for hours or milliseconds depending upon his mood. How many Men can claim variable speeds? Certainly not RoboCop. He can't even bend at the waist in a convincing manner.

Therefore, I vote for the six million dollar man beating the crap out of RoboCop and then reviving the disco craze, causing an epidemic of world peace.

-CLiff


The most important factor here though is the fact that after being a Bionic Man, Steve Austin went on to become The Fall Guy and spent most of his time falling off buildings onto big quilts. In short, he became a big fat wuss in a corset, the Burt Reynolds of the bionic world.

- Dan


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