"We have a great fight for you tonight! First, brought to you all the way from Los Angeles, "The Terminator Terminator," Sarah Connor! And her opponent, from the deepest reaches of space, the famous "Alien Killer," Ellen Ripley! Tonight, they will fight to the death!! (The crowd goes wild!) Let the fight begin!"
So Brian, who wins this brutal battle between these brawny babes?
With that being said, even the T2(tm) Sarah Connor doesn't stand a chance in hell. Let's look at their track records. Sarah Connor did lots of hiding: behind machinery, behind Ahh-nuld, etc. There is no hiding in the Thunderdome-dome-dome-dome (The preceding was an echo effect best listened to with Netscape 5.0). The only times she ever really came out and fought was: 1.) against a bunch of psychiatrists and lab technicians -- ooooh, impressive; 2.) in the final scene against the T1000. Yes, it was courageous, but all she really did was push him backwards and knock him into a molten pool. She never really killed him herself. And there are no molten pools in the Thunderdome-dome-dome-dome. Which, regardless of Connor's past experience, is a good thing for Ripley.
Ripley on the other hand just goes out and kicks tail. Yeah, she does some hiding in the beginning of her movies, but that's just for suspense and character development, which aren't factors here. When it comes time to pay the bills, Ripley gets the job done. Did you see her walk right into the heart of that nest and hold the entire Alien colony hostage with her rifle/flamethrower/grenade launcher/salad shooter? Sorry, but with balls like that, no bitch is gonna get in her way.
STEVE: First of all, let me clarify that this HAS to be the ruff and tuff Aliens(tm) Ellen Ripley and not the soft, "Where's my cat", let-me-strip-down-to-my-panties-and-go-hide-in-a-closet Alien(tm) Ellen Ripley. If it's not, then you might as well put Debbie Gibson or Tiffany out there.
With that being said, let me say that even the rough & tough Ripley still doesn't stand a chance. Even in Aliens(tm) she spent the early parts of the movie in a psycho ward, having nightmares and flashbacks to the previous movie. Kind of like those Vietnam flashbacks people are always having in really bad shoot-em-up movies. In the middle of the fight Ripley would lapse into a nightmare, and then Sarah would quickly move in for the kill.
Sarah Connor on the other hand has several things going for her. First, she is honed. Remember her doing chinups in T2? I'd like to see Ripley and her flabby physique try that one. Ripley might possibly have a chance in the physical category if she gets possessed by Zuul again, but with no Ghostbusters around to save her, she'd be dead meat anyway. Second, Sarah is extraordinarily crafty and vicious. Her escape from the psycho ward using paperclips, hypodermic needles, and hostages demonstrates this cleverness and ruthlessness. Third, Sarah was trained by ex-commandos living in Mexico (the best ones hide in Mexico from what I hear). With her superior training and strength, she'll be unbeatable. Finally, since the Terminators have essentially ruined her once peaceful life, she's basically all-around pissed off, which leads to the power of the RAGE (tm). All around, Sarah is going to kick some ass.
BRIAN: Oh, c'mon Steve. What's Rage (tm) got to do with it (got to do with it)? What's Rage (tm) but a second hand emotion? More meaningless blather. Second, your comments on Ripley's flashbacks and mental stability being a problem are just about to blow up in your face: 1.) She didn't really belong in a loony bin. She was put there illegally by the Evil Paul Reiser(tm). (I don't know who was responsible for the casting on that one, but I'm going to see to it personally that they never work in Hollywood again.) 2.) WWWF Precedence tells us that flashbacks do not prevent victory. 3.) While Ripley may have a flashback or two, Connor is prone to FLASHFORWARDS. And not just any flashforwards, but apocalyptic, cataclysmic, wailing-and-gnashing-of-teeth kinda flashforwards. Seconds into the match, Connor will get a vision of her own horribly mangled body hanging by one leg from a tattered bungy cord. She becomes paralyzed with fear and Ripley grabs the Thunderdome Axe (tm) and liberates Connor's head from the rest of her body.
Another major factor to consider here is adaptability. Neither of these participants have ever been in the Thunderdome before, so who is going to adjust to it's nuances quicker? The woman who has never really traveled far from her corner of the world and who looked uneasy in a paper hat? No. It will be the woman who has faced life-and-death adversity on three drastically different backdrops: space freighter, deserted colony, and prison planet. After adjusting to that rock from Alien3(tm) so easily, taking advantage of the subtleties of the Thunderdome will come second hand. Sarah Connor will come in trying to be a hero, but we don't need another hero, Steve. We need the experience and the guts which are Ellen Ripley.
STEVE: Let me correct you on a few issues. First of all, that was not officially the "Evil Paul Riser". As we all know, in order to qualify as "evil version" of anyone, one must have a goatee. Your so-called "Evil" Paul Riser was clean-shaven. At worst, he was simply an asshole, but definitely not Evil. Second, precendence has not shown us that flashbacks aren't always bad. Caine's flashbacks always teach him a lesson that is beneficial to the situation at hand. Ripley's flashbacks will only freak her out and disorient her, causing a quick loss at Sarah's trained hands. Sarah's "flashforwards" will actually help her. Since these mental lapses all occur in the apocalyptic future, and the Thunderdome is in the apocalytpic future, she will be well prepared. Even for Tina Turner's hair.
As far as travelling experience, I assure you that some parts of L.A. are far more scary than any old deserted colony or space freighter. I don't think you give her the credit she deserves for being able to survive in that environment.
Most likely this battle will never come down to weapons. Sarah will just charge Ripley. With her superior stringth and training, she will just break Ripley's neck or spine. That will be it. Without a weapon such as a flamethrower, grenade launcher, or hydraulic walking forklift, Ripley simply doesn't have a chance. And Sarah isn't about to give her that chance.
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Upon hearing this conversation below, Tina Turner, after a brief flashback about her life with Ike, releases the women. The first to die are George DeMet, Steve, and Brian [Sorry, guys, but it's your own fault!], but they are not the last. Connor and Ripley form a new militant feminist guerrilla army, the FoxForce FiveThousand [Hey Ma, I just threw in a gratuitous Tarantino reference!], with such members as Turner, Shelley Winters, and Senator Barbara Mikulski. The victims are many: womanizers such as Hugh Grant, dirty old men like Strom Thurmond, bimbos like Demi Moore, and sickeningly sensitive-new-age- guys such as Alan Alda. In the end, the only men in Hollywood whose lives are spared are Arnold Schwarzenegger and Ron Perlman. Oh, the humanity! Oh, the humanity!
The Aliens are voting for Ripley! As a measure of respect, because they really hate Edward Furlong, who knows? But can't you just picture an Alien sitting at a terminal, a smaller Alien coming out of it's mouth...and entering the URL for the Grudge Match?
So, to stand up to these favoritists, I voted for Connor. Man, if I were a security guard, and she were restrained and catatonic, I'd lick her too!
- David Nelson
Just for the record, there was a problem with the voting code which caused the vote totals to become abnormally large. The problems were almost immediately fixed. No more than 50 aliens voted in this match. -Eds
It's Vincent from beauty and the beast! Coming to save his transspecies girlfriend!!! Ripley backs away from our feline friend but suddenly, she begins to twitch. Ripley suddenly has a past life flashback...
She remembers New York, some nerd accountant, a big white sailor, some guy named Minkman, Tinkman.... Then, it hits her!!! "I AM THE GATEKEEPER!!!!!" Ripley tears off her mortal flesh (that's why they call her "Ripley" <-- official bad pun(tm)) to reveal she has once again become a hellhound for Zuul.
Dog chases cat. Dog catches cat. Dog eats cat. Dog eats Sarah Connor for dessert. Dog licks itself. Ripley wins.
Realizing that Sarah and Ripley need a reason to fight, a prize for the winner is announced: MadMax as the victor's personal loveslave.
The contest is over before you can say "I'll be bek."
Sarah has no desire for Max, she treasures her time with John's father. Ripley on the other hand has been lost in space, with only Bishop's torso to keep her company. The last time she was with anyone was in a previous life--and I don't think Bill Murray is exactly what you'd call choice beef. Ripley's Lust kicks in and not even a combined force of Aliens, Terminators, Predators, and the CancerMan could keep her from HER prize.
- Rond Vidar
- Brian Kutner
The hair factor: Linda Hamilton (run of the mill locks) and Sigourney Weaver (the oh-so-hip bald look in Alien3). Since Ripley looks a lot like Sinead O'Connor, or the lead singer of Midnight Oil, I'd have to go with her.
Now going on to outside influences...Do you honestly think that the Gatekeeper will lose to one who acted alongside Toonces the Driving Cat? True, you will need nerves of steel with that kooky cat, but having demon-possessed sex with Rick Moranis, hoser extraordinaire, is scarier in my books (even if it was acting...).
Plus, all the weapons in the Thunderdome are up at the top, where you need to use bungee cords to get them. It's as close to a zero-gravity environment as you can get on post-apocalypse Earth, and Ripley will use her experience in space as a definite advantage.
My prediction: Ellen Ripley in less time than it takes the crowd to sing a rousing rendition of "Beds Are Burning."
- Vlad the Wonder Hamster
"Simply the best ... (thumping rock chords) ... better than all the rest ..."
- Call me Shane
Ellen Ripley's a sucker, "Oh I'm just on a cargo mission." "oh he's a normal human Dr." "Oh sure I'll go back and kill more aliens" "Oh sure I'll walk into a room full of Horny convits" "Oh the alien's dead, woops" "Oh the Alien's Dead WOOPS"
Sarah will let Ripley get one soild lick in then feign unconsiousness when Ripley moves closer to examine her victim Sarah slams her fist into Ripley's adams apple, woops, the end.
- Eric C.
In the end Ripley will be beaten in a scene so grisley, Tina will start having Ike flashbacks.
- Your 'ol pal Ike (I still love you, Baby!)
Sarah however is a woman who has had recurring nightmares about her flesh being melted away by a nuclear firestorm, a mere twenty foot tongue of flame is hardly going to phase her. Also, it being, as Steve mentioned, already the appocolyptic future, Sarah need no longer experience flashforwards.
Lastly, ever Since T1(tm) Sarah has spent her whole life buffing up and getting ready to continually have to fight for her life. Ripley on the other hand, after each film thinks her problems are over, spends a few years in suspended animation, and then spends her time feeling sorry for herself.
So in the end Sarah comes out alive. Slightly singed but Victorious.
- Steve "Do Unto Others" Johnson
- Kim Chr. Madsen
And in this match, it will play the decisive role. If you'll remember, John Conner is fully alive and will grow up to fight off robots from hell with the tactics and the Fire in the Belly (TM) taught to him by his protective mother. Ripley has ... nothing. Newt, if you will remember, is toast. Not only dead, but chopped up into little autopsy pieces at Ripley's request. What's her motivation? If I recall correctly, wasn't Aliens III largely a death wish fantasy for the exhausted Ripley? She was weak and ineffectual (she was easily overpowered by human prisoners) until she threw herself into molten metal (hmm...much like the terminator).
Sarah has everything to live for. Ripley has nothing. That about wraps it up for me.
- the big swede
- Shatner Wins All!
- WWWF Ultimate Fan
Sarah has taken out the Terminators using:
1st movie: Glorified trash compactor, Nitro-glycerine grenades and Michael Biehn, who at that point was still the coolest person to ever walk the planet.
2nd movie: Another Terminator, punk kid, shotgun, and 13+ years combat training from Mexicans.
Since the Thunderdome houses no firearms, no mechanical devices, and most importantly no Michael Biehn, the stronger and smarter woman is gonna emerge victorious.
We know for a fact that Ripley is not very bright. In the first movie she decided, "Well, everyone on the ship has just been shredded to pieces by a big ugly thing, I think I'll strip down to my panties and take a nap." Sarah Conner, on the other hand, used a paper clip to escape from a mental hospital. That takes cunning.
As for strength, Sarah Conner has her beat here also. Ripley is, in fact, a miner. A large number of Sci-Fi movies rest upon the fact that a large colony of miners have been wasted by a group of Aliens, a single unknown lifeform, the Energizer bunny, etc. Sarah, on the other hand, has spent upwards of thirteen years learning how to kick the living crap out of people. Looks to me like this is going to be an easy match.
Just on a side note, here, I don't see why you think Debbie Gibson is wimp. I personally think Debbie Gibson could waste Ripley, Connor, Madonna, Tina Turner, Master Blaster, and even stand her own against the champion, Mad Max, and still come out with only a few rips in her jeans...
- Some Dork
Sarah Connor had a child who went on to become so incredibly powerful that he could send a T2000(R) back in time to save himself, or his mother. This bad boy appears at any given point that the Connor family needs a boost.
Ellen Ripley, on the other hand, has an extraterrestrial killer popping up any time, any where she lands, with some seriously bad intentions. The acid spitter combined with the homicidally protective Terminator spell a quick dirtnap for Ripley, while Sarah moves on to the pose-down(tm) with the also pretty darned buff Tina Turner.
The only really difficult question here is: Which would serve to more totally captivate - A bead of sweat slowly running down from Sarah's neck, between her breasts and disappearing down her loosely hanging khaki tank top, or... - Shit. Nothing could captivate me more. I really hope it's warm in the Thunderdome.
- Brian Turner - BrianTurner@worldnet.att.net
- ice prince
- bobafett bret
- Troy McClure-You may remember me from such roles as...
You see, if Connor is destined to lose, then in the future her son will simply send back a few Terminators(tm) to turn the tide of battle. (Of course, then we get into the paradox that the Terminators(tm) will never need to be sent in the future, but who cares: Time-travel paradoxes never mess things up in the movies.)
- Miguel "Philo" Valdespino
- Tony Jaramillo, Jr.
- LoFi (Ken Adams, AiS, `98)
- M. Cavazos
Connor has always fought against a single, very tough opponent, with help. In the first movie, her boyfriend pipebombed the terminator. In the second movie, she had a terminator to help with the job.
Ripley always fights against a *lot* of very tough opponents, and her help usually gets killed. She also has extensive experience with flamethrowers, which we know are available in thunderdome.
On this count, Ripley gets a slight edge. However, the real clincher comes when Ripley gets Connor down, but doesn't want to kill her "She's not an alien. This isn't part of the deal". After this, Conner is shot to shouts of "Bust a deal, face the wheel". This time, however, Turner knows enough to rig the wheel, so ripley is soon shot.
- Cory (Madman) Davis
Wow, good matchup. I can't remember a more evenly-matched battle since Wonder Woman (TM) vs. the Bionic Woman (TM). (Of course, I only found this site last week, but I digress.) The only way to approach this is scientifically (TM). Ergo: STRENGTH-CONDITIONING Advantage: SARAH CONNOR It's a no-brainer. Sarah Connor? Spent years working out, although I'm not really sure why because it's her son running his ass off fighting killer androids in the future and not her. Ellen Ripley? Catching up on her beauty sleep in hibernation. Shoves spacefood (Tang ((TM)) et al) down her mouth by the ton with swarthy-looking space types when she's not napping. SHEDDING CLOTHES TEST Advantage: ELLEN RIPLEY Hamilton took off her clothes and looked great in the original "The Terminator." Not so sure I want to see her naked in "T2." (Don't go for that brawny-but-beautiful look.) Weaver stripped down to eeny-meeny cotton panties in "Alien"(?) and looked strangely alluring. (I'm a little disturbed by the eroticism of this scene, BTW. Wait...it's the suggestion of death by all the Aliens that makes me think of sex, even when it's Sigourney Weaver. Never mind, I got it! I got it!) Close call, but gotta give it to our old friend, Ellen Ripley. ROBOT PALS TEST Advantage: SARAH CONNOR Ellen Ripley? Pissed off at robots ever since one went bananas and gave her a bad perm. Lovable friend from "Millennium," Bishop, earned her trust, then torn to fiber-optic cables when Alien Queen sneaked aboard. Would rather stage-dive into molten lava than face creator of Bishop. Please. Sarah Connor? Fought the original Terminator with nothing but small items in her purse and wicked pair of high heels. Befriended lovable Terminator in second installment of series. (This time, the robot takes a dive into molten lava rather than face her and scrappy tyke, Eddie Furlong ((TM)). Can't really blame him.) Her whole life is devoted to robots, robots, robots. Advantage goes to Connor. WHAT-HAS-SHE-DONE-SINCE-SUCCESSFUL-FILM TEST Advantage: ELLEN RIPLEY Linda Hamilton exchanged bad poetry with an overgrown fireplace rug. "Beauty and the Beast," my ass (TM). Sigourney Weaver did a film with Melanie Griffith. In the fight with Connor, all actress Weaver has to do is summon up the memory of that voice to send her into a psychotic rampage not unlike the Tasmanian Devil's, destroying everything in her path. Of course, all Hamilton has to do is think about acting with Edward Furlong (TM), and that might do the trick for her. WHAT-WAS-SHE-BEFORE-MADWOMAN TEST Advantage: ELLEN RIPLEY Sarah Connor was a waitress making $3.25/hour (It's the mid-80's, remember.) in a greasy spoon. Drawn into plot that sounds like bad "Twilight Zone" episode. Ellen Ripley: deep-space hibernation mission taking laser jackhammers to asteroids rich in aluminum (TM) or something. There's really no contest. (Although to her credit, Connor's job serving slobs in L.A. is pretty ball-busting, too. Remember the kid who slipped a spoonful of ice cream into her apron pocket?) TASTE IN MEN TEST Advantage: DRAW Sarah Connor attracted to Reese, a military man from the future devoted to wiping out Terminators for future generations. Still gets weepy over him. Let him "go all the way." Reese goes on to better place (TM), but not before he fathers savior for the future when Microsoft Skynet (aka Windows '97) runs roughshod over everything. Bill Gates fiddles as L.A. burns. Ellen Ripley attracted to Hicks, a military man from the future devoted to wiping out Aliens for future generations. Flirts with him. Doesn't let him get to first base. Hicks bears uncanny resemblance to Reese. Doesn't regret not doing "horizontal Macarena" (TM) with him until he's Alien brunch. Neither wins. CONFLICT RESOLUTION TEST Advantage: SARAH CONNOR Hangs out with abusive military types (TM) learning how to fight. Takes up primitive, 20th-Century technology to wipe out sophisticated machines. Kicks some serious ass in the end. Hangs out with Charles Dutton aka "Roc" and prissy, tea-drinking English boys quoting Shakespeare (TM) in prison colony. Takes up sophisticated machinery to battle primitive lifeforms. Takes herself out in the end. It's a tough one, but it all comes down to that last one. It's Sarah Connor by a pinky toe.
- Andy Ho
- Carb, DarkEvada
Conner - 0
Ripley - 0
Alien Chestburster - 1
And before anyone can say Aliens4, the little chestburster takes off for one of those nooks and crannies post-apocalyptic worlds are so famous for...
- S. Benoit
The A-Team would have PUMMLED MacGyver. The fact that you are putting this anti A-Team propaganda on the internet for young children to read enrages me as an American citizen. What will this country come to when young children no longer believe that with creativity, a cabbage launching tractor, and a gold plated black man with a mohawk, you can do anything. These are the values, the very foundation of this country, the only country that a man like barry mannilow could get more girls than me in. Anyhow if you do not remove this blasphemy against the A-Team, I will be forced to dislike you. THIS HAS BEEN A WARNING!
- that guy who was pissed about the anti A-Team propaganda
"Alien 3! Remember Alien 3!"
And with that, the OUTRAGED crowd of Alien fans will storm the arena. Connor won't have to raise a finger as the frothing, howling mob of death-dealing SF fanatics tear Ripley apart. The blood will fly, little bits and pieces of flesh and bone will pelt Connor and stain her clothes forever. And when it is over, the mutilated carpet of human remains will stand as a testament to terrifying ferocity of the human animal, a ferocity that no mere machine, no mindless alien, can ever hope to match.
RESULT: Sarah Connor 1, Ellen Ripley 65,000 (Pieces)
- M.C. Laughlin
- Bryan Ball
- STEVE (DALLAS)
Sarah Connor has only one motivation: John Connor. Her only child is going to save the world from the robot holocaust. He must be kept safe at all costs! For him, she's shacked up with every two-named drunk biker/mercenary she met so they could teach John necessary skills, fought the inept system that thought she was insane, helped defeat two terminators AND put herself in situations of certain doom to protect her son. Then combine that with being a single mother who alone endured potty training and piles of Mexican diapers, suffered through John's all-night fevers and accidental bullet wounds and rejoiced at John's first steps and first robbery of an ATM. We are talking serious dedication here!
But, as any mother could tell you, the job is far from over. John has so much left to learn! He must be protected! Who else is there to do that? Foster parents? Will they make sure he brushes and flosses three times a day? Will they get the blood stains out of his camouflage after a long day on the job? Will they break John out of prison in a daring daytime helicopter raid? Can they teach him how to kill a man instantly with the two scoops of Kellogg's Raisin Bran, part of a full balanced breakfast? Not likely! And we all know what happened the last time a terminator showed up! So, who will be there for him in his time of need? MOM, THAT'S WHO! She must stay alive, dammit, and protect her baby, the fruit of her womb, the child she carried for nine months, the infant she nursed in her arms. And if she has to kill "baldy" to do it, so be it.
I give Sarah thirty seconds before she rips out Ellen's intestines and strangles her to death with them. DON'T MESS WITH MOM!
- Paul Golba
A solid freindship is made during "Mad About You : The Movie", and the two ladies share all of thier free time together. Three years later, after a long day of shopping for tank tops, the two ladies enjoy a nice coffee break. After all this time of leading Ripley on it was time for Sarah to make her move. Sarah shouts " Hey isn't that Bishop?" As Ripley turns to look, Sarah stabs her in the neck with a plastic spoon. Sarah then returns to the the arena to exchange Ripley's lifeless corpse for her 2000 credits, plaque and ham.
- Army Ant
- El Guapo
- The Lone Gunmen
Even if Sarah Conner weren't all buff and tough muscle, she has the drive and initiative it takes to take down a mean momma like Ripley. Let's face it...Sarah goes looking for trouble...After meeting the first Terminator she devotes the rest of her life to blowing the crap out of them. Ripley just seems to keep reluctantly falling into her role as Alien killer. Also, I think it takes more cajones to face a T1000 with a shotgun than a few Aliens with a major "definite-kill-cannon".
Marks agianst Ripley:
-- No cute, endearing child to instill mother reflex and save.
-- No cute, endearing cat to instill owner reflex and save.
-- No pack of whacked out sanitarium inmates to save.
-- No android involved in anyway (either on Ripley's side or not)
-- No corporate asshole sellout to inspire Ripley's Rage (tm)
Marks for Connor:
-- Full blown all-out psycho (pen to the kneecap, syringe of Draino)
The crowning defeat for Ripley will come when she realizes that there is no airlock in the Thuderdome,dome,dome. Without an airlock, we know that Ripley is doomed, so Hasta la Vista, Ripley...
Terminator vs. BishopAlthough it looks pretty obvious who would win this one, the upper hand goes to Bishop. Since he was played by Lance Henrikson(TM), and since Henrikson is on Millenium(TM), and since Millenium(TM) is produced by Chris Carter(TM), who also produces X-Files(TM), Bishop is backed by about a million Beasties(TM), Mutants(TM) and Government conspiricies(TM, but I don't know whos), who all are just too much for Terminator. (Besides, Termie was running on Weland-Yutani's [The ****ing Company] Windows 2030[TM])
Reese vs. HicksActually, Mike Biehn's(TM) shock of seeing himself trying to kill himself is too great, and they both go running away screaming into the night.
John Connor vs NewtFrankly, John's just a brat who can hack with a computer. This isn't going to help him here against Newt, a real survivor. She can crawl around in the airducks under his feet, and maybe scream or bite his ankle, or something. Anyway, she could take him.
T-1000 vs. the aliensT-1000 sees the aliens as the biggest threat, and, since he's programmed to be good this time, fights them to protect Sarah. But, there's a Predator(TM) hunting the aliens, with Dutch Schafer(TM) hunting him. Dutch sees Terminator(TM) and thinking it's another Predator(TM) trick, goes over and opens up a can of Buttkick(TM) all over Termie's sorry case. The Predator sees Terminator too and decides to beat him up, because, in his own words, "you killed my brother in a previous Grudge(TM) match." So, Termie's got real problems! anyway, T-1000 has morphed into another Queen in an attempt to confuse the aliens. But the Predator(TM) sees the two alien Queens and decides that both their skulls would go great with his newly aquired Terminator mellon. Before T-1K knows what's happening, he gets a plasma burst right between the eyes. All this time, everybody has forgotten about Ripley and Connors, who have settled their differences and decided to team-up to fight the real enemy: The Company. They're the ones responsible for screwing everything up (i.e, this post-apocalyptic state). They had gotten ahold of an alien specimen, and Terminator's(TM) arm (stuck in the gears at the leadworks in T2) at the same time, and totally screwed up the world. So Ripley and Sarah connors went out to hunt down Bill Gates(TM), the president of Weland-Yutani-Microsoft-Mcdonalds(TM). But that's a story for another day.
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On the other hand, Sarah Connor demonstrates excellent hand-to-hand techniques, as she quickly and efficiently beats up both psychiatrists, turnkeys, and rent-a-cops. And plus, long before she reincarnated for T2 (tm), she spent a lot of time hanging out with a big lion-faced guy called Beast who could rip people up like nobody's business. Surely she picked up a few tips on fighting dirty from the Beast himself!
Besides, when it's announced that Ripley's pregnant with the Terminator's child, she'll just kill herself for the good of humankind.
- You Friendly Pakistani
- Melissa Schofield
Besides, there isn't an airlock in the Thunderdome.
A handicap against both of them is that neither have a dirty/smart-assed kid to protect. This will make the fight less fun, because a) the ferocious mother instinct doesn't turn them into raging wildcats b) there's no possibility that the dirty/smart-assed kid will buy it.
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